Firearms Amendment (Ammunition Control) Bill 2012 (NSW)
So here it is everyone. It is as bad as we all feared. It will not help the police in one bit.
One thing I have to take HUGE issue with is the fact that shooter’s details will have to be kept by the dealer. This logbook basically would become a very highly valuable asset to anyone who wishes to steal firearms, you know like perhaps the people they are trying to stop in the first place?
This whole thing is a bunch of trollop and I, as a NSW Voter and shooter can’t help to feel that we all have been raped.
I have nothing much more to say but WRITE, CALL and VISIT your local member.
Details are here:
Here is all of the NSW MP’s contact details:
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/members.nsf/V3ListCurrentLAMembers
Here is the contact details for all NSW MLCs:
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/members.nsf/V3ListCurrentLCMembers
Here’s the Bill:
Firearms Amendment (Ammunition Control) Bill 2012
Insert after section 45:
45A Recording of ammunition transactions
(1) A licensed firearms dealer must keep a record of all sales and purchases of ammunition by the firearms dealer.(2) The record must contain the following particulars for each sale of ammunition by the dealer:
(a) the name and address of the person (the buyer) to whom the ammunition was sold,
(b) the number of the buyer’s licence or permit for a firearm that takes the ammunition or for a permit that authorises the buyer to purchase the ammunition,
(c) in the case of a sale of ammunition that is subject to the requirements of section 65A—the number of the relevant notice of registration for a firearm or permit to acquire a firearm that was seen by the dealer at the time of the sale,
(d) in the case of a sale of ammunition to a member of a shooting club by the club armourer for the club for use in a club firearm (as referred to in section 65A)—the number of the relevant notice of registration for the club firearm concerned,
(e) such other particulars as may be prescribed by the regulations.
(3) The record must contain the following particulars for each purchase of ammunition by the dealer:
(a) the name and address of the person from whom the ammunition was purchased,
(b) such other particulars as may be prescribed by the regulations.
(4) The record of a sale or purchase of ammunition must, subject to the regulations, be made within 24 hours after the sale or purchase.
(5) The record must be kept in the form approved by the Commissioner.
(6) A licensed firearms dealer who ceases to hold such a licence must provide the Commissioner with the record kept under this section for all sales and purchases of ammunition during the 2 years immediately preceding the date on which the licence ceased to be in force.
(7) A licensed firearms dealer must, on demand made by a police officer at any time:
(a) produce to that officer the record kept by the dealer under this section and permit that officer to inspect and make copies of any entries in it, and
(b) furnish to that officer any information in the dealer’s possession with respect to any ammunition purchased or sold by the dealer.
(8.) Any person making an alteration to an entry in a record kept under this section must do so by interlineation or striking out and not by erasure.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.[2] Section 65 Sale, purchase and possession of ammunition
Insert at the end of section 65 (1):
Note. Section 65A imposes additional requirements for sales of
ammunition by licensed firearms dealers.[3] Section 65A
Insert after section 65:
65A Sales of ammunition by firearms dealers—additional requirements(1) A licensed firearms dealer must not sell ammunition for any firearm to a purchaser who is the holder of a licence or permit for
the firearm unless:
(a) a firearm that takes the ammunition is registered in the name of the purchaser or the purchaser is authorised by a permit (or its equivalent under the law of another State or Territory) to acquire a firearm that takes the ammunition,
and
(b) the dealer has seen the current notice of registration issued for the firearm or the permit to acquire the firearm.
Maximum penalty: 50 penalty units.(2) The requirements of this section are in addition to the requirements of section 65.
(3) This section does not apply to a sale of ammunition by a licensed firearms dealer to another licensed firearms dealer.(4) This section does not apply to a sale of ammunition to a member of a shooting club by the club armourer for the club for use at the club in a firearm registered to the club (a club firearm).
[4] Schedule 3 Savings and transitional provisions
Omit clause 1 (1). Insert instead:
(1) The regulations may contain provisions of a savings or transitional nature consequent on the enactment of this Act and any Act that amends this Act.
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If I read this right, I could visit NSW and buy any calibre of ammunition covered by my Victorian A/B licence. I just need to bring ALL my firearm paperwork with me.
The whole proposal is riddled with flaws and will do nothing to prevent unlicensed criminals from using unregistered and illegal guns.
Funny thing well not really, about five months ago a went to a certain gun shop in Melbourne to purches two tins of 2208 and was required to provide my firearms license the gun shop then took down all my details wrote them on a little card and stored it in a nice little box for future reference. My concerne was more the distric firearms officer would be able to see how much power, projectiles and so forth I was purchasing then could limit how much I buy a year.
Those Greens are messed up. I noticed there is nothing there mentioning reloading components. So I guess I should be alright unless I buy rimfire ammo. Next election, I will target a Labor or Green – take a big run up and kick ‘em square in the nuts.
It seems that to purchase Ammo you are going to have to take registration papers with you to the shop. This makes it a bit less than convenient. Thinking this through people like Jason who are testing firearms to report on will be inconvenienced and the rest of us are going to be stockpiling large amounts so we don’t get caught short.
Stockpile now! It doesn’t matter if you’re in NSW or not.
This is the most ridiculous piece of legislation i have witnessed,and it will not stop the criminals. It seems to me that the Government and the Police hierarchy are to lazy and inept to do their job when it comes to crime, and have taken the easy way out by blaming licensed gun owners, yet again in this state. If seems to me that you are nothing but second class citizen in this country if you choose to have a gun license. WHAT A DISGRACE!!
What is happening here in Australia is that we are turning back the clock to 1933 when Hitler took over Germany and required registration and licencing of all firearms to enable confiscation of said firearms from ‘undesireables’ further down the track………….which is subsequently exactly what happened. In the same light this also happened in Victoria in the 1980′s after the Hoddle St Massacre, all in the name of ‘Public safety’……….This law prevented no crime, stopped no murders at all, but it DID enable the Govt to easily confiscate ALL semi auto and pump action longarms shortly after the Port Arthur massacre.
So now they want to monitor all ‘ammunition purchases’?? Exactly ‘what’ are they trying to acheive here? The dropkicks in Firearms Reg in Melbourne consistently get their firearms data wrong year after year……how the hell do they reckon they’re going to keep track of millions of rounds of ammuntion??
Its about time the NAZI flag was raised over Australia and be done with it !!
Not hard to figure out the agenda being pursued here. We’ve all seen this brand of useless regulation before,and it’s not at all about crime prevention. This is simply more red tape to tie us up with. More hoops to jump through. How many people do you know that chucked in their firearms licence due to being constantly badgered by this never ending and ever changing absurd legislation crap? No Australian government or their opposing parties will ever lend support to private gun ownership. This is all part of a long term plan to make make private gun ownership illegal in Australia. This has happened overseas so don’t kid yourself that it could never happen here…..
There is a petition against it. Please take the time to sign it to show your objection to the new amendments:
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/barry-o-farrell-stop-your-attack-on-law-abiding-firea.html
I received this reply today
Thank you for your email and I apologise for the delay in getting back to you regarding the Firearms Amendment (Ammunitions Control) Bill. We have had a number of people contact us in regards to the proposed changes to this Bill which is currently in the Upper House and has not moved to the Lower House at this stage. It is anticipated that there will be significant amendments to the Bill and I am therefore reluctant to comment at this time. Once I am aware of what I will be voting on I am happy to come back to you on this.
Regards
Stuart Ayres MP
Member for Penrith
Lets keep up the letters and calls and most of all be civil with MP’s. It looks to me as if it is a long way from done and dusted just yet and if we continue to contact MP’s we might manage to have the proposals stopped.